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alison |
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Posts: 9389 12-Sep-08 4:25 AM |
Because deleting an account outright can mess up boards on which the account posted, it can disable topics that it posted in. Those need to be manually fixed.
Until deleting an account can be done without causing a mess that has to be manually fixed up, there will be no delete function available to the masses. And
his name was Rob Labbat.
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ambermai |
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Posts: 195 12-Sep-08 4:34 AM |
wasnt out to offend alison so sorry got his name wrong.
so to answer the question that started this topic in the first place quote , you say there will be no delete function for the masses. Theirs your answer people |
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alison |
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Posts: 9389 12-Sep-08 5:52 AM |
Please do not misquote me. I said "Until deleting an account can be done without causing a mess..."
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LusciousL.survivorsucks |
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Posts: 64 12-Sep-08 6:53 AM |
Kristin wrote:What would email address have to do with anything? Does that prevent them from accessing private forums the previous owner to that nic had access to? I thought it was more prudent to do it as it was done at EZ: simply globally ban them so that no one else could register their nic (like was done with sdemello and Vanchau). And his name was Rob Labbat.And his name is Rob Labatt.
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ambermai |
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Posts: 195 12-Sep-08 6:54 AM |
im reading between the lines alison as many of us yuku people do now .
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LusciousL.survivorsucks |
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Posts: 64 12-Sep-08 6:57 AM |
ambermai, why would you want to delete a nic? Just wondering....
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alison |
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Posts: 9389 12-Sep-08 7:16 AM |
ambermai, taking words out of context and presenting the altered meaning back as a factual statement is a misquote. By removing the first part of my sentence
you change the meaning of the sentence. That is misquoting, and people who take comments out of context and pass them on with a different meaning do our
customers a diservice by giving them false information.
Until deleting an account can be done without causing a mess that has to be manually fixed up, there will be no delete function available to the masses.There is no reason to read between the lines as there is nothing there to be read. The definition of read between the lines is "To perceive or detect an obscure or unexpressed meaning:" There was no unexpressed meaning in my words. To rephrase them: The features team know that people want to delete their accounts. The current system is unable to provide that functionality seamlessly. When the system is able to do it, then the developers will be able to implement that feature. I am sorry that the feature is unavailable for you at this point in time. |
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Zandranna |
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Posts: 2183 12-Sep-08 10:23 AM Blog-a-holic
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LusciousL wrote:On any system when an account is deleted everything about that person is totally wiped whether it be Yuku, Blogger, Myspace or whatever. After a certain amount of time that name is then up for grabs again for someone else. It's the same with Blogs, Message Boards or whatever. Delete one and all information on it is also deleted and the url is then up for grabs again. The fact that someone new came along and on creating an account found the name Rob was free and grabbed it, doesn't give him any access to anything the previous owner had as that information no longer exists. A long time ago the name of "Sandy" was taken by someone on ezboard. After trying several times to see if it was free, it suddenly was and I grabbed it. I don't have access to anything that belonged to the previous "Sandy" that owned it. |
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Zandranna |
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Posts: 2183 12-Sep-08 10:39 AM Blog-a-holic
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LusciousL wrote:There are several very good reasons why it will be very handy when we can once again delete a nic. 1) We are allowed 5 user names on here per email address. Some people in the beginning created nics that they don't use and would love to create a new one. Yes it's easy to create a new account with a new email address and get 5 more names if wanted but it's inconvenient having to log in and out to swap names. 2) Many people are having to hold onto names that others would dearly love and can't have because they are sitting unused in someone elses account. 3) There are others that created an account to test Yuku out as a system and found they weren't comfortable here so want to delete their whole account. I have a couple of names linked to this account of mine that were brought over from ezboard that I haven't used since ezboard. I also have names on another account that I would like to have linked to this account for convenience, this account has supporter the other doesn't. What would be nice is if we can't delete a nic that we could seperate them by using another email (link and unlink them). That way we could juggle them around and leave all the ones we don't want to use in the one account waiting for the day we could delete them. |
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pearl casThrillo |
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Posts: 14 12-Sep-08 11:22 AM |
What I don't understand is, If banned a posters Nic is deleted.How is that any different than say deleting a nic on request?
My only answer to this is that hundreds of nics being deleted would change the stats and require someone to click delete for a while. |
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LusciousL.survivorsucks |
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Posts: 64 12-Sep-08 11:36 AM |
On any system when an account is deleted everything about that person is totally wipedNot so on EZ - and I assume not on Yuku either, or there wouldn't be a need to remove their privileges at all. Unless you've never posted with a certain nic, why would you want anyone to take over that nic, creating confusion as to who is posting? If I absolutely wanted to get rid of a nic linked to my Yuku-supporter profile, I'd rather create a new email address and file a ticket to get that nic moved to that emal address. I wouldn't dream of deleting a nic. ETA: Cheri, no banned posters nics are deleted. |
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Zandranna |
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Posts: 2183 12-Sep-08 11:56 AM Blog-a-holic
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pearl casThrillo wrote:I think you will find that just because they have banned someone globally they wouldn't necessarily be deleting that account at the moment, maybe it's just locked. We did used to be able to delete our nics on here, just as we could on ezboard, but then some of the new coding didn't work together or some such thing so they had to freeze the deleting of nics. There is actually an url running around that some members still have that does lead to the page where we can still delete a nic but as Alison, or someone, says, there is a problem with it and so the link was taken out of our personal settings until they can sort it. In other words trying to delete a nic now doesn't work properly. Maybe staff are taking the time to actually delete banned users nics manually. But they would know how to get around the faults in the system for deleting if they are. Basically until they fix the problem with deleting a user name we as members can't do it even if staff are able to. |
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ambermai |
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Posts: 195 12-Sep-08 12:17 PM |
Reading between the lines is something one has to get used to when needing information from yuku after all the delete the account stopped working im informed
around two years ago and still not been fixed and as yuku is supposed to be a much better system than any other around can you answer why other systems seem to
be able to delete your account if requested but yuku find it hard to be able to do this , perhaps yuku should shop around and ask other developers on other
systems for help in this matter.
Alison i really do think you should stand back and read your post as a customer im not mis-quoting you at all only stating what they will remember the rest of your post will not be remembered and please im not passing this on anywhere , no need customers come here and read it for them selves so doing yuku a diservise is done by themselves with no help from disgruntles customer like myself. To answer the question as to why i would want to delete my accout well lets see 1. running around yuku as a ghost for god knows how long and leaving reports for it and nothing been done to the point where ive been ignored 2 most of the time yuku is that slow i cant get here or it times out its like playing the lottery if your numbers come up your in , if not well keep playing long enough and you will get here, if your lucky you will manage to go around yuku to your fav boards if not like today once again i manage two boards and oh look time out again. This does nothing to encourage me . |
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LusciousL.survivorsucks |
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Posts: 64 12-Sep-08 12:31 PM |
Zan & ambermai (& Cheri): The system doesn't know the difference between an "old" nic and a nic that has been re-registered. I.e. if you re-register a nic that has previously been registered, you can edit their posts, and you'll have access to private forums they had access to, etc. And, as I said, a banned nic, will of course not be deleted.
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exstreamuser |
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Posts: 2094 12-Sep-08 12:35 PM munificent member |
ambermai wrote:I am not that far from you and neither is Alison or Chris the developer may even be closest. While the service is not blisteringly fast and I would like it better, it is most certainly useable. Have you considered it may be your ISP that is the cause of the problem? |
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ambermai |
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Posts: 195 12-Sep-08 12:42 PM |
Andrew their is nothing wrong with my isp ive even gone out and bought a brand new computer and still have the same problems and im not the only one who has
problems getting here .
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Zandranna |
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Posts: 2183 12-Sep-08 2:52 PM Blog-a-holic
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Andrew the system is not usable for everyone. Like Ambermai it's hit and miss as to whether I can get pages up for days on end. ChrisW has been trying to
help me via the ticket system after conversation with the developers and nothing is working.
I find it so annoying that I am told to check out my comp or check out my ISP or whatever. I have had the same comp, the same ISP, the same browsers and all was ok until Yuku moved the servers. It seemed from that day on many, many of us have been having trouble. I have no problem getting on anywhere else on the web whatsoever, so no way is it anything to do with my end. It's so bad that I have given one of my active boards away, and my other board that was active I have now had to leave sitting there with the read only help posts for those that want creative ideas for their profiles and blogs. I have had to start an active board on another system simply to keep up with the friends I have made over here. Those that have also been having the same problems of not being able to get pages up or continually getting time outs are now also on the other system with me because we can no longer meet up on Yuku. I love Yuku and I am still an active member here and intend to continue to be so, but it became impossible for me to run an active board over here. How can one run an active board when one isn't guaranteed to get on everyday and neither are half of ones members. With the system I have my board on now the pages are up within the blink of an eye. Today is a good day for me with Yuku, it's only taking aproximately 3 mins to load each page, with just the odd timing out. I am very happy for those who aren't having the problems that many of us are but just because they aren't having problems doesn't mean others aren't. I will also say that less and less people are complaining about not being able to use the system simply because they are not longer here. To prove how bad it is for me. I actually paid for gold for my board only a few weeks ago and now it's going to have to sit there unused with the gold slowly running out until Yuku manage to sort out why so many of us can't use the system properly. |
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Pigathius |
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Posts: 15 12-Sep-08 3:14 PM |
it's not actually necessary to delete a nic to stop using the place... just a thought. If it's too slow then yeah, that's a royal pain. but you can
edit a nic and leave it idle anytime.
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exstreamuser |
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Posts: 2094 13-Sep-08 1:29 AM munificent member |
Point 1: Yuku is not discriminating against one person or another. i.e. they serve the same to everyone.
Point 2: Take your PC and put it on another Internet connection and it works just fine. Conclusion: the problem is in the middle. Point 3: The Internet itself does not discriminate what traffic goes where, if it is throttled or blocked. Conclusion: ISPs are the only ones that do discriminate and throttle traffic. This practice is common in the UK and particularly on budget plans. It is making it's way into the US now and is making the news. Some items for your interest: http://www.theregister.co...network_management_tools/ http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/comcast_cap/ http://www.theregister.co...in_nationwide_throttling/ Keywords for any search: "ISP Throttling", "Net Neutrality". There have been discussions between Users and their ISPs for years about throttling of certain types of content but the common result is that the ISP admits nothing and does nothing. Users ultimately research and change their ISP to get the results that they want. Again, you will find plenty of reports on this too and one UK site that probably has all this info and reports is http://www.ispreview.co.uk/ While you are there, read what others have to say about your ISP. |
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pink |
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Posts: 421 13-Sep-08 2:37 AM |
I am not sure whether that's the same thing though. Doesn't throttling take down high volume users in total? It won't throttle just a certain site.
If you can get to 10 sites while at the same time not being able to get to yuku, then it's not going to be the ISP, is it?
What is also possible is that on the route between a person and yuku there is a poor connection. The same route of servers may not be used for other sites, depending on where they are. But you don't get a choice about which route your connection goes. If you can't get to yuku via your wireless trailer connection, but could get to yuku if you plug directly into the router, that might help narrow down some contributing factors. But I don't know enough about that kind of things, and the devleopers can't replicate it, so they can't fix it. |
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