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LININCT |
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Posts: 1263 13-Sep-08 3:08 AM |
I just wanted to add that I have a board member in Australia who is no longer able to post (she can't load Yuku, but can load other U.S. boards not on
Yuku) -- I don't remember after which push that started happening, but it's sad and we miss her.
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exstreamuser |
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Posts: 2094 13-Sep-08 5:54 AM munificent member |
Throttling can be done in two ways. The first is a general throttle on a User's bandwidth. The second is using traffic management gear, to deprioritise
certain types of traffic by most ISPs, especially here in the UK.
Internet routing can be affected by whose pipe it is sent out on (basically from London). The Internet itself then routes by many different routes to find the fastest way to transfer the data. If a router goes down in Herndon, for example, the Internet will compensate for that by routing around that in the next fastest way. In reality, the packets get sent by multiple routes. The ISPs routing can vary from Company to Company and often they use BT equipment. Some are better than others, so that can be a factor but that would affect all traffic and not just a grouping of sites. Companies like Virgin Media and Pipex are financially struggling and are looking for any which way they can to cut costs and maintain service to 95% of their Customers. Hence, the throttling and traffic management measures. There are other considerations that can slow things down at ISP level. Internet Service Providers in most countries now log all incoming and outgoing data, downloads and uploads, emails and files transferred, for an unlimited period of time. As of Dec.14th, 2005 the EU Parliament passed a law calling for the European Union ISP's to retain certain records for at least six months. The following data will be saved by ISP's: * Each website ever visited with time and date stamp * Each file ever downloaded using FTP or P2P * A record of every e-mail sent and received, including the e-mail content. * The name, time, date, etc of every user who chatted with via an Internet Messaging program, including the logs of the chats. * Each web forum posted on or visited * Logs of IRC sessions Also "transparent" caching is often used which can slow down initial page-loads. If yuku has tweaked things so that pages are never cached, they will always suffer this lag with the extra communication used by these caches. Wouldn't it be nice if cache Managers would simply allow yuku never to be cached? Been there, tried that, they won't do it! Some ISPs take time to compress data and images. All these are factors in why an ISP may slow things down. Australia is mentioned. It's almost like they are at the end of the Earth there. From memory, Australia is quite poorly served by the Internet - maybe this has improved - and a lot of the ISPs there use software caches. If people are losing their connectivity to yuku there as a result of a push, I would suspect it may be caching related. |
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Zandranna |
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Posts: 2183 13-Sep-08 8:36 AM Blog-a-holic
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I am not technically minded so much of what is said above has gone over my head, but all this technical discussion just doesn't wash because many of us
have been using Yuku now for nearly 3 years. We have the same ISP, the same comps the same everything. Why then all of a sudden is it possibly our ISPs or our
Comps or other bits that have to do with so many of us having the problem of getting on here. It doesn't make sense. We are not talking about Yuku being
slow, we are talking about people actually unable to totally get pages up or pages timing out as well as the slowness when one finally can get here.
I move my laptop from my house to my Daughters, to my nieces. Same comp, different connections and ISPs. I can jump on my daughters or my nieces comps, different comps, different ISPs. Yet I still can't easily use Yuku on any of those connections. Pages still time out or load very slowly. Prior to coming into this thread I watched. 3 times I had to try before I got onto the portal of this site. The first 2 times it timed out. On the 3rd time it took 1 min 11 secs to load. Now this has been a good day for me. 1min 11secs is very fast to what I can experience. The sooner people stop thinking it's something the customers end the sooner it may be able to be worked out what is wrong. All the time people are trying to figure out and get customers to do this that and the other when it's obviously something to do with the path that Yuku has set up here it's wasting time, energy and emotions. As customers we are way passed trying things ourselves. It's all been done by so many of us, there is nothing more we can do our end to help fix it. |
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pink |
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Posts: 421 13-Sep-08 8:38 AM |
I have to add, I stopped using Firefox and went back to Safari because Firefox times out or takes over a minute to load yuku pages where safari loads them
instantly.
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exstreamuser |
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Posts: 2094 13-Sep-08 9:39 AM munificent member |
Technically minded or not, surely it can be seen that everyone has yuku serving them in common as well as the Internet itself in common. The only places where
a difference can be occurring, because it is not the same for all, is local to the User.
Maybe I do not experience some of this because I have tweaked my Firefox. This may make a difference pink, if you wish to try it. 1. Type "about:config" into the address bar and hit return. Scroll down and look for the following entries: network.http.pipelining, network.http.proxy.pipelining, network.http.pipelining.maxrequests 2. Normally the browser will make one request to a web page at a time. When you enable pipelining it will make several at once, which really speeds up page loading. 3. Alter the entries as follows: 4. Set "network.http.pipelining" to "true" by double-clicking it. 5. Set "network.http.proxy.pipelining" to "true" by double-clicking it. 6. Set "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" to 8 by double-clicking it. This means it will make 8 requests at once. There is no point setting it higher then 8 as it is capped at 8 max. [The default value for this setting is 4] 7. Lastly right-click anywhere and select New-> Integer. Name it "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" and set its value to "0". This value is the amount of time the browser waits before it acts on information it receives. 8. If you're using a broadband connection you'll load pages MUCH faster now! |
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pink |
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Posts: 421 13-Sep-08 11:13 AM |
I've always had my firefox like that, and I use a particular firefox build designed for optimum performance on my OS. But it misbehaves in yuku.
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1992casey |
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Posts: 2205 13-Sep-08 7:14 PM munificent member |
Relying on totally unscientific personal observation, the only thing I see that's improved since the move to the new data center is a lesser number of
white pages. Outside of that, there's still lots of sluggishness, and some things have gotten worse. This bug is absolutely tied to the move: Using back button in your browser... I think it's the most annoying
bug I've experienced during my time on Yuku.
Weirdly enough, it appears to me that I'm frequently getting better behavior on dialup than on broadband. Essentially, dialup doesn't hang for me, but broadband does. Of course, when I say "hang," I'm referring to times that the browser stops and waits. Certainly, it takes longer to obtain graphics on dialup; that's to be expected. Regarding the original issue (deleting profiles/accounts), there was an explanation of legal ramifications that was recently posted by one of the staff members. Things have to be made so someone can't come in and be a jerk (or worse, an illegal jerk), then delete his account and take all the evidence with him.
Last Edited By: 1992casey 13-Sep-08 7:16 PM.
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Redau |
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Posts: 898 13-Sep-08 9:16 PM |
LININCT wrote:Interesting you should say this Lin as I too am "downunder" and I too have just about given up being part of my community I often wonder do they even remember who I am? The same with me it was after a major push and like the other Aussie I have no problems whatsoever with any other site - so there goes the crap about Firefox, ISP's, and all the other information and "url's" being thrown in our face. And for your information people this also happens to me using I.E.7 I am intelligent enough to know to always switch browsers if problems arise and then ring my ISP. I have been informed Yuku's packets are not coming through properly and this is the reason why many of us having problems cannot load because we either receive white pages or are times out - that's if it can get this far as many times you are left sitting and waiting till your patience runs out and you move to a different site. It's like having a broken down old car that you might use to go to local shops but would not risk on a long distance holiday. |
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WhiteClover23 |
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Posts: 416 13-Sep-08 10:44 PM |
Excuse me butting in here, but this topic has been allowed to go way way offtopic. And as such I think that some of the information re browser settings etc may
have been lost to anyone who might want to know about possibilities to optimise performance but wouldn't think of a topic about deleting an account as the
place to find it . Lol!
Could you guys start a new topic for that? |
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ambermai |
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Posts: 195 14-Sep-08 12:18 AM |
my numbers must have come up this weekend this is the 6 time yuku has allowed me to come here .
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GoldenGem |
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Posts: 142 14-Sep-08 3:38 AM Rare |
Going back to the throttling of services. We are with Virgin and I know that they cut down the internet usage of bulk users between 4 p.m. and midnight every
day. So any slow times I have had I have tended to blame Virgin rather than yuku but what I wonder is a "bulk" user.
I would like to know as a matter of interest which ISP's do NOT use this throttling system. |
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exstreamuser |
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Posts: 2094 14-Sep-08 7:05 AM munificent member |
http://www.virginmedia.co...lp/traffic-management.php
I think most "unlimited" ISPs in the UK use throttling. Less likely that a capped service will but it is an area that is not always up front. Top 10 in the UK: http://www.ispreview.co.uk/review/top10.php At random I picked ICUK. I have used them in the past and couldn't fault them. They have always been pretty straight and I find no mention of throttling on their website. It infers that they don't. http://www.icukhosting.co.uk/internet_home.asp |
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GoldenGem |
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Posts: 142 14-Sep-08 9:05 AM Rare |
Thanks for the info, unfortunately I'm told there's not much we can do until our 12 months are up with Virgin as it's all part of a package - but
then we will look around. I have bookmarked the link.
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Dancinglite |
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Posts: 187 14-Sep-08 10:40 AM |
Zandranna wrote: I would like to get an answer to this. I have a former user, now banned by name but because they have AOL cannot ban by IP yet she is able and has created ID after ID after ID after ID. In all over 85 new IDs most of which are either insulting or have used personal information of another member in them ( multiple tickets already sent in and all legal does is ban them). I really don't think she is creating new email addys as they have been coming thick and fast and is instead deleting them somhow. If deleting of additional ID's that have been allowed under your original ID then please tell us how it is done. |
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Zandranna |
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Posts: 2183 14-Sep-08 11:16 AM Blog-a-holic
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Maybe it would be a good idea for Yuku to do what i know another system has done.
In each members settings one can click to let the member be exempt from an IP ban. As each member joins one just clicks to make them exempt then if one wants to ban a member one goes in unticks the exempt button and then bans their IPs. No one else is affected even if they have the same IP. Also there is a setting that if a new member comes on and tries to register with a banned IP they are given a message that the owner will get back to them. A warning is then given to the owner and they can check who the person is. If they are an innocent party then the owner can override the system and let them in. |
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EricaMMurphy.momstobeclub |
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Posts: 1 24-Oct-08 7:08 AM |
So no straight answer here I'm guessing? I am on a Moms group and they want to move their MSN group to Yuku, and it seems that I already had an account
(don't remember doing this) and I want a new one for that specific group, because this account has to do with my Maiden name and not my married name...any
answers on how to delete an account? Or are we going to go off subject yet again?
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templework |
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Posts: 1616 24-Oct-08 8:09 AM "temporarily dysfunctional"
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EricaMMurphy wrote:Although we can't delete old/unused usernames - each free account can create 5 profiles - each paid account can create 10. Just sign in with the account/name you prefer to use. Hope that helps |
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mainepatty |
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Posts: 8 8-Nov-08 6:13 PM |
I just can't understand how you can have a website where users can't delete their accounts when they want to.
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katharita |
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Posts: 1 23-Nov-08 4:59 AM |
EricaMMurphy wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- So no straight answer here I'm guessing? I am on a Moms group and they want to move their MSN group to Yuku, and it seems that I already had an account (don't remember doing this) and I want a new one for that specific group, because this account has to do with my Maiden name and not my married name...any answers on how to delete an account? Or are we going to go off subject yet again? Dunno why yuku cannot let us delete accounts when everywhere does Messing up boards just an excuse they want to hang to us and hope for us to pay to stop ads |
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Chris W962 |
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"Messing up boards just an excuse they want to hang to us and hope for us to pay to stop ads"
If people don't want their account anymore, we are well aware that not offering the option to delete that account isn't going to keep them here and pay for the account. We used to have the option to delete accounts, anyone who has been around yuku long enough will remember that they could delete the unwanted profiles. At one point in time, changes in the code were made. The account deletion process as we had it could no longer be used because of those changes. For people who don't want their account anymore, we've always offered alternatives via the help desk and worked with them on a solution that is acceptable. http://helpdesk.yuku.com/ |
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