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Posts: 1263 2-Mar-08 6:57 AM |
Jibril Ammon wrote:Correct. See Alison's Post, #34 above: Did I mean owner not admin - yes I did. The owner/ezop will not see ads on their own board.Jibril -- if you are the Owner (not the Admin or Moderator), you shouldn't be seeing ads in your board. Everyone else will, but not you, the Owner.
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Jibril Ammon |
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Posts: 2762 2-Mar-08 7:11 AM munificent member
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*keeps in mind she must have a full cup of coffee before posting in order to read correctly*
Okay... but it doesn't make sense. If I as an owner haven't paid, no Supporter, no Gold, I should see ads. It's only fair. I'm still using bandwidth that should be paid in some way... through ads. However, even in that case, it's not working. Non Gold owners are still seeing ads.
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Posts: 1263 2-Mar-08 7:23 AM |
However, even in that case, it's not working. Non Gold owners are still seeing ads. They should put in a help ticket. |
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Jibril Ammon |
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Posts: 2762 2-Mar-08 7:28 AM munificent member
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Yeah, I have to take that back, it was minor glitch of being on the wrong board and not knowing it
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Posts: 1263 2-Mar-08 7:28 AM |
Okay... but it doesn't make sense. If I as an owner haven't paid, no Supporter, no Gold, I should see ads. But, here's another way to look at it: If I as an owner haven't paid for Gold or Supporter and I don't see ads, I will be much less inclined to pay for GOLD for my board -- but, instead I will encourage members to buy Supporter (a $ benefit to Yuku), which doesn't cost each individual that much, and if they like doing profiles and such, it's a benefit to them. It all sorta depends on which angle you're looking at it from.... For example, this may makes sense to individuals, but boards that are more community driven (like ours), the Gold board makes more sense. But, to be honest, I truly wouldn't be surprised to see Gold go by the wayside sometime down the road... Add a few more incentives to Yuku Support and I think it will -- or a few more negatives to Gold.
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Posts: 1263 2-Mar-08 7:44 AM |
Jibril -- Sorry. I must have been typing as you were posting. Glad you got it figured out! I'm with you on the coffee!
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Jibril Ammon |
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Posts: 2762 2-Mar-08 7:48 AM munificent member
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I see your point there. And I suppose I should be happy that I get special treatment on my own boards, but honestly, I tend to stick to my boards, so I feel I
should be doing something for Yuku! This is just encouraging me to stay on Bril's profile even though on my own boards I switch a lot to other profiles
(because of editing). A lot of my time is spent on the other profiles when off on those boards.... which the ads take forever to load.
I'm not complaining mind you! So to sum up... yes... all board owners, regardless of Gold status, get ad free on their own boards, on the profile that is the owner (not the linked profiles). If we go to this extent... shouldn't Supporter be more appealing? I am in a good position that I can encourage my members to buy Supporter, as we're role players, the 5 extra signatures and 5 extra profile slots are very appealing. I plan to buy Gold for the two RP boards, but my members intend to buy Supporter too for the extras. But people who only have one profile, don't have more than one or two sigs and really only post on Gold boards and don't really care one way or the other about being anon, what's the incentive to go for Supporter for them? If they aren't seeing ads on boards anyway and don't go to profiles very often, why bother with Supporter? To be nice to the board owners? Not much incentive. Supporter needs to have something more appealing to it to make average poster want to buy it. |
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Posts: 821 2-Mar-08 7:58 AM |
I'm getting more and more confused now. I paid $54 bucks for my board, a friend paid $18 for my board, for a total of $72. Did we waste our money, since
the owner doesn't see ads anyway? Should we buy gold? Should we buy supporter? Or should we buy nothing? I have no idea what the difference is between
these three options. If I pay money for something, I want to know what the advantages are for making that payment. Also, if I buy both, I want to know why
paying more is a better option. I think I'm getting a headache now.
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LININCT |
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Posts: 1263 2-Mar-08 8:58 AM |
Jibril -- Owners don't see ads on their boards, but that doesn't apply to their profiles. You will see ads there. If all of your members are going to buy supporter, then there is no need to buy Gold. None. Tiger -- It kinda has more to do with how many members you have, and if they plan to buy supporter (because they like profiles and such). But, if you have a community more like ours -- a small one where some pay a bit extra to cover those who can't, where we don't have an interest in profiles, and we don't roam around a lot, -- then you can just go for a Gold board. Because there are soooooo many confusing variables in this  , you really
have to figure it out based on the number of members you have and what your priorities are. 'Cause face it, if a board is financed via Supporters, Yuku
has the potential to make quite a bit more money. That is why, in my opinion, they are placing more incentives to have individual people purchase Supporter,
focusing MORE on individuals than on boards (and board owners).
And, in my opinion, it would be an absolute waste to pay for both Gold AND have every member paying for Supporter as well.
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Jibril Ammon |
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Posts: 2762 2-Mar-08 9:30 AM munificent member
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Yeah, I got the part about the linked profiles seeing ads.
There is a reason to buy Gold, though, at least in my opinion. Our boards (when I say 'our' I mean mine, though I may own them, as far as I'm concerned the boards belong to all of the members) are well under the 50K, so even the lurkers wouldn't cause a problem pushing up the price. Because I feel ads can be a deterrent on an RP board, I intend to buy Gold. The reasons I feel the ads could be a deterrent is for one, they load extremely slow, even on a good connection. Someone with an old computer like mine or a dial up connection... they would get annoyed by the wait. I get annoyed, but I'm in it for the long haul, I'm not about to say forget it. Also, they are irritating. Ask.com had an ad up last night that not only slowed me down to stopped for over 5 minutes, but it was animated with possibly the most asinine little ice skaters. My whole system was at a stand still while it loaded the ad, all I could do was watch the stupid skaters. And that isn't the most irritating ad out there. I think one time I saw the 'shave her legs' game ad... it's stupid. For an RP board, the disruption of ads can make you loose the appeal. If I'm reading a story thread and see this constant flashing ad, some of them have sound I think (I have my sound turned off on my computer because my sound card is so bad, no point ), it breaks the mood.
Ads also seem to me to be a not so serious board... or an 'I don't care what my members think' type of board. Who wants to join an RP and not feel part of it all. Sure they could get Supporter and eliminate that, but if they never used Ezboard/Yuku, they may not know about it or may not want to commit until they know the board is a place they will frequent. I wouldn't want to spend $12 on a board I may never go back to if I'm just checking it out. So buying Gold is something that's still viable. Not for me, but for potential new members. I want people to know I care about my board. Even if they don't post... never post, but read (which I used to have some that did), I want the reputation of being a quality board that takes everyone into consideration, not just my most active members. Gold is worth getting. It's just that if this is the direction that we're going, Supporter needs to be more appealing. |
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Posts: 1263 2-Mar-08 9:37 AM |
Jibril -- there was some discussion awhile back about non-Yuku people seeing ads regardless of whether or not a Board is Gold. If they are a
Yuku Member, they won't see them. But if it's someone from "outside," they will. I recall someone being quite upset by this and quite a bit
of conversation about it. So just double-check, okay?
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Same old Bob |
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Posts: 64 2-Mar-08 9:46 AM Mr Insanitivity
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You'll never get a board with lets say 1000 members to all buy supporter for themselves so that you don't need to buy gold for the board. Out of 1000
you'll be lucky if you get 20 people to contribute to ad free service for the board.
But the more supporters you have, the lower the gold cost is and from experience its the guys who are on board the most, driving up the board cost, are the ones who contribute the most money toward ad free service for the board.The fact that they contribute to gold for the board and get supporter for themselves gives them and the board some extra mileage for the dollar. |
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Posts: 1616 2-Mar-08 9:53 AM "temporarily dysfunctional"
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LININCT wrote: Yes - I'm really interested in this...I buy Gold because I don't want anyone to have to put up with Ads!
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TigerLady |
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Posts: 821 2-Mar-08 10:02 AM |
I have always had a small board with very few active members because I like boards that I can keep up with. I don't have time to spend the whole day on the
board trying to read and respond to posts. Therefore, I never relied on my members to pay for anything. I always paid the cost for my boards, even when they
were closed (on ezboard). But the difference is that I always knew what I was paying for and now I don't. Anyway, whether anybody answers my question or
not, my board has gold status for quite a while. I have time to think what my next move will be when the gold expires.
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sweet khaos |
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Posts: 361 2-Mar-08 10:18 AM munificent member
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TigerLady, I feel like the question has been answered?
GOLD BOARD: No ads on the board itself, for ANYONE who visits the board. This pays for all members of a board to have an ad-free viewing experience on that board only. If your board members only use your board and/or don't care if they see ads elsewhere on Yuku (other boards and in profiles) then this is a good option for the board. YUKU SUPPORTER: No ads on ANY board or ANY profile viewed by the person who has supporter. Supporters also get a total of 10 signatures and 10 profiles linked to their accounts (as opposed to 5 and 5 for non-supporter). Supporters help boards with over 50K view pricing because their views of ad pages won't count against the board's ad views (since they're already paying not to see ads). Not all that important on boards under 50K views. |
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Jibril Ammon |
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Posts: 2762 2-Mar-08 10:26 AM munificent member
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LININCT wrote:Lin, I don't see ads on Gold boards.... I just had to find one (there was a case of I didn't know the board had Gold and spent a few hours this morning totally confused on that ).
But that's not what I was going on about. I was saying that I have reason to buy Gold for my boards... when I am financially able to do so. You were saying there was no reason to buy Gold if everyone on your board is Supporter, I say there is... I wasn't saying I do or do not see ads, that's irrelevant since I don't have Supporter. |
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Posts: 9389 2-Mar-08 10:30 AM |
You still didn't answer my question(s). What do I get for buying gold? What do I get for buying supporter? In other words, what's the difference between the two? And why would one want to have both supporter and gold? I think your question has been answered several times over now, but I will summarise just in case. Gold is for your board. If you buy gold for your board (assuming that it's a small board) then your guests will not see ads on your board. Supporter is for you. If you buy supporter then you will not see ads on any boards or profiles that you visit. Which should you get? There are a lot of different options for both owners and members. It all depends on your personal needs. Some admins like to keep their boards ad free for ALL members and guests. They do not wany anyone seeing ads when they visit the board. These people will always endeavour to cover the costs of Gold. Some admins are happy for the board to be ad free, but only if their members want to contribute. They leave it up to the community. Some people then just buy supporter to cover themselves, and others are happy to donate to the board. Some people visit a lot of different boards. They buy Supporter because it's the best way to ensure that they don't have to view ads on each community. Some people never go anywhere other than one board. They feel very loyal to that board, and probably wish to contribute to the gold costs rather than buy supporter purely because of the family-like relationship that they have. They don't need supporter if the board is gold either. So you need to evaluate your needs based on your habits and your board's needs. Also, to address the confusion over non-registered guests seeing ads, please read the ads settings FAQ |
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Posts: 1775 2-Mar-08 10:44 AM The puck stops here
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On ezboard, I footed most of the cost of my board for several years and then a handful of my members started paying for part. But I always contribute at least
$12 (the cost of my supporter). I kept the board gold partly for no ads, but mostly for the gold features.
Now that we are on yuku, I left it up to my members. I even created a poll so that they can make the decision. We don't need gold for the features, because all boards have the same features. I've tried to steer my members towards buying supporter for themselves as I feel that gives them the best bang for their buck. The few members that visit other boards will probably go that route, but most won't. I've already had one member buy a few months of gold for the board and I think that that's probably how we'll continue, is with someone stepping up and buying a month or two when we run out. The fact that they get a few months of supporter will encourage more donations. |
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Posts: 821 2-Mar-08 11:06 AM |
alison wrote: I think I start to understand now the difference between the two options. Since I spend most of the time at my own board and post at one other board, the best option for me is gold. But then again, I like the 10 signature option, which only yuku supporter offers. That means that I have to purchase supporter for the portion of my gold payment that was made by a friend. And then when I renew my gold, there will be an overlap of yuku supporter payments. That's when things start again getting messed up. |
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